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Sunday, 14 October 2007

Greenwashing their hands

by Roz Paterson, SSP


The ecology of shopping...
This article was originally published here: http://www.scottishsocialistparty.org/stories/greenwashing.html

Apparently, you can shop til you drop and still save the planet.

Tesco, a company growing at such an exponential rate it will soon have its own currency, is to hand over a £25million chunk of its gargantuan profits to Manchester University to fund an Institute of Sustainable Consumption.
And this on top of offering customers a whole extra point on their loyalty cards for re-using old Tesco carrier bags!
Meanwhile, Marks and Spencer are busy pursuing Plan A, a five year bid to see the company edge towards carbon neutrality, zero waste, fair trade and healthy eating.
Not that this seems to have stayed their appetite for wrapping up fruit in seemingly bombproof packaging.
In fact, all the big supermarkets are at it, pronouncing their commitment to penguins and butterflies all along the aisles of their overlit, over-heated cathedrals to over-consumption.
Which is the basic problem, really.
Supermarkets need us to buy stuff, far more than we need, so much so that we chuck two thirds of it away, uneaten, often unopened. They pour millions, far more than Tesco boss Terry Leahy has pledged to Manchester University, into persuading us to consume like our lives depended on it.
We are bombarded with urgent promptings to shop for stuff, from the minute we step out our homes, or switch on the TV, or even look out the window. Americans are advertised at some 6000 times a day - we’re not far behind.
And once we enter a supermarket, we’re lobbied relentlessly, through two-for-ones, BOGOFs and the practise of running ‘loss leaders’, where key items, the ones we know the price of, at rock bottom prices, so we assume everything else is dirt cheap too and go madder than a 1970s game show contestant who’s just won a three minute trolley dash round Lipton’s.
Without all this pressure, why else, in this age of 24/7, 365 days a year shopping opportunities, do we stock up for Christmas (when most shops are shut for, yes, one day) like the nuclear winter was approaching?
Or buy three tubs of margarine when we only wanted one, yet think we’ve saved money?
To save the planet, we actually need to consume much, much less and this, for a capitalist enterprise for whom profit is not only the bottom line but the raison d’etre, is unthinkable.
But let’s suppose for a minute, just a minute, that there is no global warming. That global warming is just a con trick dreamed up by a clique of evil ecologists who want us all to be miserable and cold and forced to jolly well ride bicycles to work.
If such were the case, could supermarkets ever be a force for good?
After all, they supply cheap food to the masses, don’t they?
Well, I guess, but the only cheap food is the fat-laden, chemically-enhanced, over-preserved, nutritionally-neutral stuff that food campaigners are desperately trying to drive out of school canteens and vending machines because of its propensity to nurture heart disease, cancer and diabetes.
All the good stuff costs, and not just monetarily.
Take the organic revolution.
Even were climate change on hold, it would still be a good idea to eat food that was sustainably produced, leaving the countryside in good shape for us to enjoy and in which rural workers can safely labour, and not laden with damaging pesticides that not only compromise our immune systems but wreck ecosystems and poison wildlife.
The problem is, supermarkets being what they are, they only buy organic produce from the cheapest suppliers. That is, in the world. Thus including countries where there are no labour laws. Hence, 75 per cent of organic produce is flown in from abroad, clocking up millions of air miles as it does so.
The same goes, of course, for non-organic produce.
And if you’ve ever wondered how they can sell it so cheap yet rack up such massive profits, remember there are people at the other end of this long food chain, and they’re the ones subsidising the UK’s cheap food industry.
People like the South African pear picker on 38 pence an hour who cannot afford to take her children to the doctor when they’re ill. And the female fruit pickers expected to pick apples while they are being sprayed with hazardous pesticides from above. And even here, people like the small farmers forced to sell crops for less than they cost to produce, driving them out of business and leaving seasonal workers high and dry.
Then there are the working conditions for those employed directly by the big supermarkets.
Wal-Mart, which now owns Asda, is a notoriously anti-trade union organisation, and in February 2006, was ordered to pay £850,000 for breaking new trade union laws by offering illegal inducements to workers to quit the GMB union.
Some 340 drivers and warehouse men at a Washington, Durham, distribution depot were offered a 10 per cent pay rise if they left the union
Our homegrown institutions are hardly better. Tesco, for instance, despite its staggering profits, has, report T&G shop stewards, put pressure on them to relinquish hard-won pay and working conditions if they want to join the company pension scheme.
A website established by disgruntled employees, of which there are many, dishes the daily dirt on Tesco, whose public image is dominated by whichever fading celebrities are hollow enough to take the cheque.
Bad for people, and the planet. There is little good to say about supermarkets, yet they thrive, mostly because the government is too in awe of big business to introduce any curbing legislation, and leaving us with a monoculture of big chainstores and precious little else.
Boycotts exist, particularly against Tesco, and any money directed away from the giants and into local economies is to the good. But consumer power cannot solve the problem by itself.
The campaigning charity Action Aid is calling for the government to introduce binding rules for supermarkets, and an independent watchdog to stamp on the abuse of power that currently helps ensure that people in developing countries stay poor, in order to provide a workforce desperate enough to work for virtually nothing.
We need legislation, not club card points and laughable research institutes that find the results their paymasters want them to find. Until then, watch out for the greenwash... and don’t buy more than you can chew.


EXPLOITED! Visit the SLLU exhibition: http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/2007/09/exploited.html

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Friday, 14 September 2007

Luna Box - Laura and Krisp...

Plot Tracer Investigates the Luna Box Collective...

Krisp and Laura asked me to meet them on their Red Boat on their island of Montevideo. (http://slurl.com/secondlife/Isla%20Montevideo/234/88/33 )

[13:26] Plot Tracer: aha - this red boat?

[13:26] Krisp Alexandre: yeap

[13:26] Krisp Alexandre: hello

[13:27] Plot Tracer: hi laura

[13:27] Laura Gagliano: hello;-)

[13:27] Plot Tracer: i like the boat!

[13:27] Krisp Alexandre: :-)

Laura had materialised in the sea just off the bay in which the Red Boat and their submarine sits. From my vantage point I could see the large exhibition centre of Luna Box and the SLLU “Exploited” Factory installation.

[13:27] Laura Gagliano: I always take a sea bath before interviews! Lol!

[13:27] Krisp Alexandre: :-p

[13:27] Plot Tracer: will we go aboard?

[13:27] Laura Gagliano: sure, lol;-)

[13:28] Laura Gagliano: i've been palying to the little barbies dolls for hours, lol;-)

I know Laura must have a busy real life as she has children… SL/RL – I have a lot of questions!

[13:28] Laura Gagliano: i want to go in my red boat ;-)

[13:28] Krisp Alexandre: :-)

On board, there is a fire burning in the middle of the boat, the fumes and smoke funnelled through the roof. Krisp and Laura sit side by side. They are a couple in RL as well as SL.

[13:29] Laura Gagliano: the journalist can take the nice Charlotte Perriand lounger!

I take my place in what seems like a psychiatrists lounger – am I to be the interviewed?

[13:29] Plot Tracer: i like this - what a great space!

[13:30] Laura Gagliano: this is gonna be my home when i'm older

[13:30] Laura Gagliano: lol

[13:30] Laura Gagliano: and rich;-)

[13:30] Krisp Alexandre: :-)

[13:30] Plot Tracer: your retirement home?

[13:30] Laura Gagliano: lol

[13:30] Laura Gagliano: what is retirement?;-)

I know what she means – Laura is a busy woman. She has been busy building Luna Box for most of the year – from the humble beginnings most people start with in SL – to the fantastic island it is now.

[13:30] Plot Tracer: ok will we start?

[13:30] Laura Gagliano: yup;-)


[13:31] Plot Tracer: The 'Exploited' exhibition seems to be drawing a lot of visitors so far - congratuations! and many thanks to Luna Box for agreeing to curate and host it. To begin with, can you give our readers some brief background information about how the idea for 'Luna Box' was conceived?

[13:31] Plot Tracer: don't worry about making long answers...

[13:31] Laura Gagliano: hehe, me? making long answers?;-) never! Lol!

[13:32] Laura Gagliano: Ah, it was conceived as a cooperative, a visual cooperative. A sort of alternative to free lancing and slavery. We are 4 in Rl, with various specialisations....web, modelling 3d, photography, rendering scenography....

and we work also with others perons, in network

[13:33] Plot Tracer: Who are the main avs involved?

[13:34] Laura Gagliano: inworld Krisp Alexandre, Saajuuk Bogomil, Neener Keats and me, for the real life and in sl, antib milo, wildo hoffman....

[13:34] Plot Tracer: And what was your vision behind creating this co-operative?

[13:35] Laura Gagliano: The cooperative is dedicated to communication, in many ways.....fictional as well. But in terms of contents, we are specialized in virtual exhibitions, culture, education in priority. We are in installation in Montevideo Rl...

[13:38] Plot Tracer: How else does Luna Box impact on your rl?

[13:38] Krisp Alexandre: euh....

Krisp is the quiet one of the partnership. Quiet, though skilled in his work – and very obviously politically dedicated to what they have created.

[13:39] Krisp Alexandre: meet some new peoples

[13:39] Laura Gagliano: and we really would like to cooperate with institutions. Luna Box is a reality;-) we are presents in second life to explore the potentialities of metaverses in terms of educational technologies.....

[13:39] Krisp Alexandre: and opening to other perspective in/out sl

[13:39] Laura Gagliano: at all nivels. And yes.....sure, to meet people with the same interests, exchange ideas....creativity.....

[13:40] Plot Tracer: cool

[13:40] Krisp Alexandre: yes... evolution

[13:40] Laura Gagliano: levels* nivels is a spano english word! Lol! sorry;-)

[13:42] Plot Tracer: np - that is great - that leads me on to this question - In RL, Laura, you make no secret of the fact you are from Uruguay but living in France. You were very prominent in the fight against Front National setting up in Second Life – in fact it was you and SLLU who helped to popularise this fight against the organisation of fascist groups in SL. What do you think of current French Politics?

[13:43] Laura Gagliano: Ah....the question would be what do I think about French society evolution.....

[13:43] Plot Tracer: yes

[13:44] Laura Gagliano: I think it's a society working at his own poorness.... economical and cultural- front National is just an epiphenomenon of the fact..... Also, I actually think that the actual president is a representation of something maybe worse than extremist and intolerant parties..... he's popularizing at a no return point, making official the same ideas in a light version..... but the audience is bigger.....

[13:46] Krisp Alexandre: honourable looking but same ideas than extreme right

[13:46] Laura Gagliano: sincerely....I'm happy to come back to Montevideo in a couple of months.....

[13:47] Plot Tracer: like blair - sarkozy an expert at spin?

[13:48] Laura Gagliano: But i cannot stop to think that is an inncredible waste, erosion of all a culture.....

[13:49] Plot Tracer: yes - i would nsay the same for the British culture - and especially the Scottish and working class cultures in the UK... Thatcher and then Blair have caused havoc....As a native of Montevideo, politically, what do you think of recent events on the South American continent?

[13:50] Laura Gagliano: Well.... it happens a lot of things there;-) South America popular and intellectual have ever been with a leftist sentiment..... it was one of the reasons of the Condor Operation in the past..... [see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor]

[13:51] Laura Gagliano: But in a very different way of Europeans, just for historical reasons.... it have most the face of a search of freedom..... we've been colonies for a very long time, remember.....lol and the responses to that are locals also.....

[13:53] Plot Tracer: yes -as have the places i have lived - Ireland and Scotland. there is a "colony culture" don't you think?

[13:53] Laura Gagliano: personally.....i'm not a Chavez lover, for the simple reason that is a very authoritarian government..... More near of the politic of a Lula.... which with errors, almost desenvolve something..... it participes of a consciousness process.....not so bad. Yes ireland and Scottland sure.....;-)

[13:54] Plot Tracer: What has been the impact of SL in Uruguay?

[13:54] Laura Gagliano: maybe is for this reason that I’m living in Britain, before France lol! : the Uruguayan community in sl is very little.....but with some great talents...really..... but i think that the bigger interest of metaverses in south America is to use it like a resource for education.....

[13:58] Plot Tracer: yes - i agree with you on that point - i would say that is sl's greatest asset...

[13:58] Laura Gagliano: the worse problem is the matter of inexistence of individual access.....so it's necessarely to desenvolve the collectives and institutionals ones

[13:58] Plot Tracer: yes - and sl is now being seen more and more as a way to create financial gain...

[13:59] Plot Tracer: Do you think Uruguayans will be more into SL as more people come online - now capital in Uruguay is starting to be spread out to people because of fairer progressive tax laws (a friend of mine from Uruguay told me she was happy to see coin operated phones in her town recently – as these were a good sign that the economy was becoming steady)?

[14:00] Laura Gagliano: Well, sincerely, i've founded the reaction of Argentines workers very intelligent in many ways....

[14:00] Laura Gagliano: the matter is not the absence of capital, there's a lot of money in circulation in the Rio de la plata- is more to stop the run all around, and the localization of capitals.....most of them have NEVER been south American.....

[14:02] Plot Tracer: i dont understand you answer... what do you mean most of them have never been south American?

[14:03] Laura Gagliano: I mean they have never been possession of south American states, or private enterprises..... they're Europeans half a part

and USA for the rest.....The French energy company have bought the service for Uruguay..... etc.....

[14:04] Plot Tracer: there is a denial on their behalf of their south American ness? Do the majority not share the want of Simon Bolivar - a "united states of South America"?

[14:05] Laura Gagliano: Well, not really.....the big families who own the lands and fabrics where inmigrated here like colons.... and it don't have changed a lot;-)

[14:06] Plot Tracer: it is unusual for immigrants not to become part of the local culture...

[14:06] Laura Gagliano: just the terms , but it's the same mechanism..... and all is for sale to the bigger offer, lol

[14:07] Plot Tracer: yes - like all of the now neo-liberal world...

[14:08] Laura Gagliano: Yes....but curiously the 500 years {anniversary] of the discovering of America seems to have awaked some sentiments.... i'm happy of that

[14:08] Plot Tracer: cool

[14:08] Plot Tracer: ok.... moving away from politics a small way... Are family involved – and do many of your family understand or know about Luna Box and SL?

[14:09] Laura Gagliano: ah yes, for me everybody, knows almost. After.....who knows who understand what? lol

[14:10] Plot Tracer: do they "approve" - I ask as someone whose family don't see the value in sl as i do...

[14:11] Laura Gagliano: No, apart my grand mother, but she never have understood the value of a computer lol so it's normal

[14:11] Plot Tracer: cool

[14:11] Plot Tracer: how do you think Luna Box impacts on visitors rl’s?

[14:13] Laura Gagliano: Sincerely, like a link, a network.....I've meet really interesting people in Sl.... We're just trying to show parts of our realities, lol I’ve never believed in only one reality and it was a few years ago, i've never touched a computer yet, lol

[14:14] Plot Tracer: Do you feel sl is a different reality - or as lawyers have recently said - part of real life?

[14:15] Laura Gagliano: Both things;-) imagination is it part of reality, reality is it part of imagination, good question, lol we can stay since tomorow with, but....i'm not sure that is a special problem of metaverses and virtuality;-)

[14:17] Plot Tracer: yes - but i feel there are concrete - real - things here - relationships, communication, education and erm... money. My opinion is that the sub-reality of sl is secondary to these things... what do you think? And Krisp, what do you think?

[14:19] Krisp Alexandre: I think virtual reality is a part of reality... you don’t have 2 worlds closed... there is a lot of link and bridge between both. As human, you project your reality in virtuality with all sort of thing

[14:20] Plot Tracer: absolutely. I think it became very obvious when "pig bombs" were impacting in the rl media for example... and the fact that we are sitting in a boat, but divided by a sea...

[14:20] Krisp Alexandre: and SL is a copy of RL for a lot of people I would like that sl not becoming a clone of real world.

[14:21] Plot Tracer: yes

[14:21] Laura Gagliano: but it's also support of totally deslinked experiences for others....

[14:21] Krisp Alexandre: in sl like in rl you can make friendship and meet other peoples,

[14:22] Laura Gagliano: imagination is no restrictive, even when we talk of money.....

[14:22] Krisp Alexandre: but it's more simple in sl, you dont have the distance problem

[14:22] Laura Gagliano: and all sorts of dirtiness’s.....lol But Sl is putting a light more on some collectives inconscients ;-)

[14:22] Plot Tracer: with "dirtinesses" you mean the porn?

[14:23] Laura Gagliano: no, the money, lol

[14:23] Laura Gagliano: no money, no prn;-)

[14:23] Laura Gagliano: lol

[14:23] Plot Tracer: yes - i agree - personally I have learned a lot from sl by talking to people from all over the world about their experiences...

[14:23] Krisp Alexandre: yeap, agree

[14:23] Plot Tracer: ok - 'Exploited' opened only last week and already seems to have generated a lot of buzz and interest. Do you know how many visitors has the expo received so far? The feedback I have received has been very encouraging - What has been the feedback you have been receiving?

[14:24] Krisp Alexandre: all peoples i talked to, were very enthusiastic - very good feeling, it seems

[14:24] Laura Gagliano: Yes, the feed back it's very simpatic and friendness.....i still have to put the notes in the exhibition…shame on me;-)

[14:24] Plot Tracer: lol -

[14:25] Laura Gagliano: but I really would like to instaure the oficialisation of an interactive space her....

[14:25] Plot Tracer: "instaure"?

[14:25] Krisp Alexandre: i saw some guys take and sit and passed a long time between the video

[14:25] Laura Gagliano: I mean, the garden is open to all collaboration in relation with the thematic;-) install?

[14:26] Plot Tracer: ah ok

[14:26] Plot Tracer: yes - i have been here when people have sat at the video the whole way through - it is a very powerful video.

We talk about the technicalities of compressing video and streaming on SL.

[14:29] Plot Tracer: ah ok - this was a "collaboration" between sllu and luna box - Do you think these kind of collaborations are a good idea – that is, collaborations between different left individuals and organisations?

[14:29] Krisp Alexandre: yes, a very good idea. Errcheck helped us too

[14:30] Laura Gagliano: and Antib Milo with the radiations;-)

[14:30] Krisp Alexandre: working in network is more powerful than stay lonely

[14:30] Krisp Alexandre: lol

[14:30] Laura Gagliano: Well, i like collaborations quiet natural, and it was the case ;-)

[14:30] Plot Tracer: absolutely - my opinion as well... and you all seemed to work fantastically together.

[14:31] Laura Gagliano: It's incredible to see how the best things we do in life needs no organisation, lol

[14:31] Plot Tracer: absolutely.... no bosses!

[14:31] Laura Gagliano: And the time we spent trying to organize thing who never works. I found it fun.

[14:31] Krisp Alexandre: collaborating is a natural thing... no ?

[14:32] Plot Tracer: yes krisp... i agree

[14:32] Plot Tracer: This exhibition is the second collaboration between Luna Box and SLLU. The first was the anti-G8 'Cre-8' tribute garden, which you also hosted at Isla Montevideo, and which was unique in that it invited SL residents to come and place their own exhibits, and freely express their opposition to the injustices of globalisation, and share these tributes with others, in solidarity. This second collaboration also appears to be a fairly unusual event in SL, in that it is utilising the multimedia capacities of the platform, which is often a very 'cartoony' environment, in order to highlight serious RL social justice concerns surrounding an overlooked subject - that of global workers' exploitation and suffering. This is possibly the first exhibition on this subject in SL history. What do you say to people who believe there is no place for highlighting RL social issues within SL - that RL and SL should be kept 'separate'?

[14:33] Laura Gagliano: I said to them that the most importants messages in terms of society and politics

[14:33] Krisp Alexandre: we can keep sl and rl separate... sl and rl is part of life

[14:34] Laura Gagliano: was given in the 70 in usa by the cartoons, the science fiction, etc.....

[14:34] Krisp Alexandre: and wee only have one life !

[14:34] Plot Tracer: i agree krisp - make the most of the one life we have!

[14:34] Plot Tracer: in what way, Laura?

[14:35] Laura Gagliano: The American subculture was great....and very cartoonist.... I don't see those envirinonments like a problem… it don't hurts the force of information..... also....the biggers lessons and morals were given in the chidren's stories in the past..... isn't it?;-)

[14:37] Plot Tracer: yes - i see - information and politics can be taught through these environments like the popular culture of the past - yes - these places are the new "fairy tales!"

[14:38] Laura Gagliano: maybe....;-)

[14:38] Krisp Alexandre: sl is a media with strength and weakness... we must use it to expose real and imaginary things

[14:38] Plot Tracer: yes - well put, Krisp.

[14:38] Plot Tracer: ok - Tell us about the other politically themed exhibitions Luna Box has hosted in SL previously – and any on going projects.

[14:39] Laura Gagliano: Well, we've made an exhibition in our anterior sim about revolutionary graphics - signs, paints ....

[14:40] Krisp Alexandre: we also had a 'revo video stream' ;-)

[14:41] Plot Tracer: tell the blog readers what that was?

[14:41] Laura Gagliano: it was a multi space exhibition, with Roots Camps and Errcheck

[14:42] Plot Tracer: cool. Roots Camp is a good organisation. Are you going to do further collaborations with them?

[14:42] Laura Gagliano: Yes, Errcheck is a very good collaborator, he have an immense graphic culture;-) Sl is made to learn, also and I've learned a lot with him;-)

[14:43] Plot Tracer: yes - he had a lot of original stuff in the first tribute garden...

[14:43] Krisp Alexandre: yeap, very instructive collaboration

[14:43] Laura Gagliano: yes, he's impassioned by his subject and a good searcher.

[14:43] Plot Tracer: Do you believe that there is a hunger for this kind of content in SL, in contrast to the platform's more ubiquitous 'consumeristic' culture?

[14:44] Krisp Alexandre: yes, i hope

[14:44] Laura Gagliano: Well, the artistic platform in sl is becaming very interesting.... I cannot say a lot about the malls and shops platforms...... I spent my lindens uploading

[14:45] Laura Gagliano: lol

[14:45] Krisp Alexandre: and for 1 or 2 dresses ;-)

[14:45] Plot Tracer: aha! lol

[14:46] Laura Gagliano: yep, when the grey is trashy, i put the orange

Laura has the “orange” on now. Her AV is one she has taken lots of time over – she has created a unique AV. Krisp’s AV looks a lot like this rl picture in his profile. Another way of communication, unique to this kind of environment.

[14:46] Plot Tracer: What most inspires you in SL?

[14:46] Plot Tracer: both of you?

[14:47] Laura Gagliano: the same in sl and rl, lol the possibilities and the search;-) the communication

[14:47] Krisp Alexandre: liberty and open mind of peoples we can meet

[14:47] Plot Tracer: i am totally with you on those points! I agree wholeheartedly...

[14:47] Plot Tracer: How would you like to see the potential of the platform further developed, in terms of using it to promote social justice in RL?

[14:48] Laura Gagliano: the voice....the sound.....

[14:48] Laura Gagliano: lol

[14:48] Laura Gagliano: wildo!!!!!

[14:48] Plot Tracer: yes wildo is great...

[14:49] Plot Tracer: but in the sense of educating others to the injustices of the world - has sl got the impact to influence peoples thought?

[14:49] Krisp Alexandre: a greater access to all sort of information, photos, sound, video, and meeting

[14:50] Laura Gagliano: hum.....i simply think that it's a little bit young to said....

[14:50] Laura Gagliano: for an impact in Rl i mean..... but he have the charm to be a new possible way..... but i've the impression that the communities with a good activity a growing up......

[14:52] Plot Tracer: well - it has brought all of us "together" in some way - the world has become smaller.... do u think our being here is impacting on rl? I was at a socialist meeting last night at which i kept saying things like, 2my friend from the Us" or "my friend from Denmark" "my friend from London" and my friend from France" all of whome i met here on sl...

[14:53] Krisp Alexandre: yes, i think... facility of communication with people around the world...

[14:53] Laura Gagliano: yes;-) it makes possible impossible meetings

[14:54] Krisp Alexandre: internet made this possible... and SL is a simple way to do it

[14:54] Laura Gagliano: i agree with you plot;-)

[14:55] Laura Gagliano: yes....the interest of sl is the space of expressivity......

I CRASH ….

[15:01] Plot Tracer: aha - a problem with sl.... crashing, eh? lol!

[15:02] Krisp Alexandre: :-/

[15:02] Laura Gagliano: lol

[15:02] Krisp Alexandre: :-p... interview is safe !

[15:04] Plot Tracer: oh - what was beatbeatwing?

[15:04] Plot Tracer: beatbeatwing kidd?

[15:05] Laura Gagliano: A grafist from Hong Kong, descovered in sl nad invited for an exhibition.-)

[15:05] Laura Gagliano: he makes a very interesting work, i like it.....in the gallery, luna box

[15:08] Plot Tracer: cool. ok to finish off - what do you see as the future of collaborations with sllu? Laura - you were a member of sllu from near to the beginning - and sllu has been going for nearly a year - do you see sllu as moving onwards with its project of helping to unite left groups and individuals?

[15:09] Laura Gagliano: well, i would like to develop an activity of conferences;-)

[15:11] Laura Gagliano: it could of a common interest, i'm sure;-)

[15:12] Krisp Alexandre: live audio conferences...

[15:13] Laura Gagliano: and for the rest of the question....yes

[15:14] Laura Gagliano: Sllu in sl.....where could you meet a Mexican socialist?......in london?.......lol;-)

[15:15] Krisp Alexandre: :-D

[15:15] Plot Tracer: certainly not in (the town i live in outside Glasgow...)

[15:15] Plot Tracer: audio conferences - hmmm some people do not like the idea - me included - think about trying to understand each other - accents etc... it could turn out to be a night mare - though i have seen that some universities are offering language courses in second life - so i might try Spanish ( or French!) ok - thank you both for this interview!

[15:16] Krisp Alexandre: yeap... but you can have traduction

[15:16] Laura Gagliano: yes, i deending in what form it's organized;-)

[15:17] Laura Gagliano: i don't like the idea of nightmare too, but there's no obligation to assist in conferences in a language that you don't understand, lol

[15:17] Krisp Alexandre: thanks a lot Plot, it was a pleasure to answer your questions

[15:17] Laura Gagliano: translators are bad, buerk

[15:17] Laura Gagliano: lol

[15:17] Laura Gagliano: oh, you can arrange my English, lol;-)

[15:18] Krisp Alexandre: lol... my few words too ;-)

[15:19] Plot Tracer: yes - i agree, laura. i think the mind of a colonised person believes that the language forced upon him is the only one people need to speak. Neruda is a poet i have a lot of respect for - he liked to range from mighty language, to common language... and i think we all need to TRY to communicate. The British Govt have been very bad at teaching language - and the British peoples are very bad at thinking they need other languages. i hope to learn another language soon...

[15:21] Krisp Alexandre: si...

[15:21] Krisp Alexandre: no hablo castellano... tambien !

[15:21] Plot Tracer: lol! cool! very good!

[15:22] Plot Tracer: bien!

[15:22] Krisp Alexandre: gracias

[15:22] Laura Gagliano: ah, lol, i feel the iteacher behind that

[15:22] Plot Tracer: lol - i WISH i could speak French or Spanish! lol

[15:22] Laura Gagliano: "always encouraging"

[15:22] Laura Gagliano: lol

[15:22] Plot Tracer: aha!

[15:22] Krisp Alexandre: oui :-)

[15:23] Plot Tracer: ok... got to go. aurevoir for now - i will speak to you both soon! I appreciate this. I think this interview will be of interest to a lot of people who read the blog. see u both soon!

[15:24] Krisp Alexandre: see you Plot, and bonne nuit :-)

[15:24] Laura Gagliano: kiss, plot;-)

[15:24] Krisp Alexandre: à bientôt

[15:25] Plot Tracer: bon nuite! and see u soon! as the northern irish say, keep 'er lit!



Oi - GO! - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Isla%20Montevideo/234/88/33


Questions by HIGGLEDPIGGLE SNOATS and Plot Tracer

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Saturday, 8 September 2007

EXPLOITED! and STEAMPUNK UTOPIA...

Steampunk an SL invention? Scroll down for the first in a short series of articles by Plot Tracer on Utopian SF Writers from the days of steam...


Remamber to visit the SLLU Factory Exhibition - in collaboration with Luna Box

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Isla%20Montevideo/234/88/33

Watch the stream and then enter the building for the exhibition about worker exploitation in the past and now!



After you have been to the exhibition, please go to the Tribute Garden on the island to place your tribute to the exploited.



The Tribute Garden is at the top left of the island...

PLOT TRACER Looks Backwards...

Click on slurl to go to Babbage - a "Steampunk" sim. Or alternatively click on the slurl below.
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Babbage%20Square/207/204/32

Caledon: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Caledon/255/128//

Steelhead -
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Steelhead/84/226/24

Looking Backwards

“Steampunk” isn’t new. The socialist science fiction writers of the 19th and early 20th Centuries were imagining utopian, steam driven worlds (with a bit of nuclear guess work thrown in) long before SL was dreamt of…

“Looking Backward” by Edward Bellamy, is a strange read and it is so for a number of reasons, not least being the fact that it was published in 1888 and is about the socialist utopia the writer envisages for the 20th century. In it he predicts credit cards, radio, television and covered pedestrian malls. Julian West, a middle class insomniac, employs the services of a hypnotist to put him to sleep at night. His manservant, Sawyer, is supposed to wake him the next morning with a special “reversal of the mesmerising process.” When he awakes, he finds he has slept over 100 years. It is the year 2000.

As well as being a critique of the social, economic and political situation of his own times, it is a romance and a science fiction fantasy. The ideas Bellamy wrote about, ie. the portrayed utopian society , influenced people such as Eugene V.Debs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs) , John Dewey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey) , Thorstein Veblen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorstein_Veblen), and Norman Thomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Thomas ).

Bellamy’s twentieth century is a time when everyone shares in a common wealth. It is a time when there are no wars, no private profit, no starvation, no class war, equality and retiral on full pension at 45 (so you can, just with that fact, see that his prediction was wide off the mark!)

His twentieth century utopia is a very nineteenth century idea of utopia. Bellamy – West in the story – explains that everyone in the twentieth century speaks in the way the educated middle classes spoke in the nineteenth century, the dialect of the working classes having been eradicated by equality and education. He also tells us that because the relationship between money and married status has been eradicated, marriage has become freer – people marry only for love rather than to keep status in society. This has in turn led to an equality of sorts between men and women – though his nineteenth century mind could only imagine an “imperium in imperio” organisation of the “weaker sex”. Women do work and are paid equally but their working hours are less, they have more frequent vacations and “careful provision is made for rest when needed,” because women are “inferior in strength to men and further disqualified industrially in special ways.” What women have, ie. an equality unimaginable in 1887, has been given to them by the men, “We have given them a world of their own, with its emulations, ambitions and careers.”

Bellamy gives the moral authoritative voice to a protestant minister - modernity in the nineteenth century middle class mind was greatly effected by the individuality the church was allowing capitalist venture. The sermon is written in a way that today we find grating. The minister takes ownership for the change in society for the church (perhaps this would be a way we could sell socialism to Texas?).

Though these things are telling of the middle class Boston Bellamy is from, (he had studied law, though never practised and had become a journalist) his ideas on state capitalist organisation and equality were revolutionary enough to make the book the third biggest seller of its day after Uncle Tom's Cabin and Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ.
One of the most interesting parts of the book for me comes towards the end when he revisits the nineteenth century. He takes a walk around Boston, commenting on advertising, the banking system and poverty. He then goes to his fiancés house where he sits at a luxurious dinner table. Someone in the company asks him where he has been and he says,
"I have been in Golgotha," at last I answered. "I have seen
Humanity hanging on a cross! Do none of you know what sights
the sun and stars look down on in this city, that you can think
and talk of anything else? Do you not know that close to your
doors a great multitude of men and women, flesh of your flesh,
live lives that are one agony from birth to death? Listen! their
dwellings are so near that if you hush your laughter you will hear
their grievous voices, the piteous crying of the little ones that
suckle poverty, the hoarse curses of men sodden in misery turned
half-way back to brutes, the chaffering of an army of women
selling themselves for bread. With what have you stopped your
ears that you do not hear these doleful sounds? For me, I can
hear nothing else."
He looks around the table and sees the guests are shocked and he tells them he was not accusing them personally of the weaknesses of the nineteenth system. The guests, rather than seeing his point became “angry and scornful. Instead of enthusiasm, the ladies showed only aversion and dread, while the men interrupted me with shouts of reprobation and contempt. "Madman!" "Pestilent fellow!" "Fanatic!" "Enemy of society!" were some of their cries, and the one who had before taken his eyeglass to me exclaimed, "He says we are to have no more poor. Ha! ha!" He is then thrown out. I don’t know about you, but I have been to parties like that.
After this revisiting of his former time he feels shame, “For I had been a man of that former time. What had I done to help on the deliverance whereat I now presumed to rejoice? I who had lived in those cruel, insensate days, what had I done to bring then to an end?”
Perhaps, using the same dramatic devices Bellamy uses to prick his 19th century audiences consciences. I should ask myself the same question on behalf of my descendants, what was I doing while New Labour papered over the cracks while Bush plundered the world and promoted “poverty with servility?’ What was I doing when “governments were accustomed, on the slightest international misunderstanding, to seize upon the bodies of citizens and deliver them over by hundreds of thousands to death and mutilation, wasting their treasures the while like water; and all this oftenest for no imaginable profit to the victims.” Bellamy makes a lot of metaphors – though I think his metaphor of the “prodigious coach” is his best. In it he describes society as a coach, the fortunates riding in the luxury seats – the unfortunates – the masses, pulling at the harness and driver, hunger. At times the road was bumpy and some might fall from their seats, but they tried their damndest to keep them and pass them to their children. He also says that those who sat in the seats were under the illusion that they were “made of finer clay” than those pulling the coach. He said that this illusion was quick to take hold of those who managed to climb up from the ground, “before they had outgrown the marks of the rope upon their hands, began to fall under its influence. Another telling line in this metaphor is when he says that the people up top can, “enjoy the scenery at their leisure or critically discuss the merits of the straining team”, something I feel, Bellamy is a tiny bit guilty of as he later pours scorn on the working class labor (sic) movements. He believed a solution could only come if the educated classes were persuaded are willing to do something. He believed class solutions were fragmentary narrow and the nation should unite patriotically to create the ‘ultimate nation’.
Bellamy’s ideas are not fully formed in this book. He talks about a loose treaty between nations who have adopted his socialist/state capitalist system and says that it is for future generations to sort out the future ‘unification of the world as one nation. Meanwhile, however the present system works so nearly perfectly that we are quite content to leave posterity the completion of the scheme’
Bellamy went on to write another book about this ‘time’ called Equality, in which he explores his ideas further. His ideas became the basis for a new political party in the US – The National Party.
This is an interesting read – giving an insight to the ideas that were being bandied about at the time and the belief that capitalism was in a state of imminent destruction. Bellamy was writing around the time when Marx’s ideas were becoming known to the world. Actually looking backwards, perhaps if all of those people with similar goals had come together and forced change perhaps a time-traveler arriving today would not see the increase of death, destruction and broken lives that has actually happened. Perhaps arriving today she wouldn’t know about the death and destruction happening in the name of capitalism as the capitalist press and capitalist politicians conspire to keep the west ignorant, but that is another story. Perhaps if all of the people with the same goal come together in our time, a time-traveler in 100 years will find a utopia were ‘long ago oppressor and oppressed, prophet and scorner, had been dust. For generations rich and poor had been forgotten words.’
Read Bellamy’s works online –

http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Edward_Bellamy/Looking_Backward_From_2000_to_1887/

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/b#a327
The Parable of the Water-Tank
from the book "Equality" published in 1897 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Parable_of_the_Water-Tank
Edward Bellamy on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bellamy

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